Ramaini 7

tahiya hote pavan nahin pani, tahiya srishti kown utpati;
tahiya hote kali nahin phula, tahiya hote garbh nahi mula;
tahiya hote vidya nahin Veda, tahiya hote shabd nahin swada;
tahiya hote pind nahin basu,
nahin dhar dharni na pavan akasu;
tahiya hote guru nahin chela, gamya agamya na panth duhela.

Sakhi: avigati ki gati ka kahown, jake gawn na thawn
gun bihuna pekhana, ka kahi lijai nawn


In that state there is no air or water, and no creation or creator; There is no bud or flower, and no fetus or semen; There is no education or Vedas, and no word or taste; There is no body or settlement, and no earth, air or space; There is no guru or disciple, and no easy or difficult path.

Sakhi: That state is very strange. I cannot explain it. It has no village or resting place. That state is without gunas (qualities). What name can on give it?


In this Ramaini Guru Kabir is speaking of the state of God realization, or a state of consciousness, in which the individual Self or Soul, realizes its unity with the Universal Self or God. Since this is a state of consciousness, it is beyond all physical things, and so Guru Kabir lists the various things which the state is not, such as, a state where there is no air or water, creation or creator, bud or flower, fetus or semen, etc. This state of consciousness is often called the Super-Conscious state, to distinguish it from our ordinary everyday consciousness. To attain this Super-Conscious state, one has to withdraw the mind from all the external physical manifestations and concentrate on the Soul within, and through meditation, arrive at a realization that the Soul within and God are the same “thing” in Spirit. This state lies beyond the functionings of the mind, the body, the emotions and above all types of knowledge and scriptures. It is an intuitive experience which cannot be explained to anyone else. This is why Guru Kabir lists what it is not, and said that he cannot explain it to others. One has to purify oneself in thought, word and deed, and practice meditation in order to realize that state which leads to salvation.